To Taper or Not to Taper…Here is the Answer!!! - Steroid Talk https://www.steroidslive.com/forums/steroid-talk/to-taper-or-not-to-taperhere-is-the-answer Steroids Live Discussion Board en-US Mon, 09 Mar 2026 05:47:50 +0000 wpForo 60 RE: To Taper or Not to Taper…Here is the Answer!!! https://www.steroidslive.com/forums/steroid-talk/to-taper-or-not-to-taperhere-is-the-answer#post-1250 Mon, 17 Sep 2018 12:05:41 +0000 replete with study references on anabolic fitness showing shutdown and how long it lasts. One has esters in the title.

]]> Steroid Talk animal https://www.steroidslive.com/forums/steroid-talk/to-taper-or-not-to-taperhere-is-the-answer#post-1250 RE: To Taper or Not to Taper…Here is the Answer!!! https://www.steroidslive.com/forums/steroid-talk/to-taper-or-not-to-taperhere-is-the-answer#post-1249 Mon, 17 Sep 2018 11:31:02 +0000 I posted that study numerous times on varix and other boards, so I’m guessing somebody has it. It was done by the university of IA as one of the subjects or researchers sent me the abstract. I don’t know the title, but it looked at LH, FSH, just about every AS, and the reductions of LH and FSH at 2 weeks – 4weeks which went to zero.

Actually, I’m so smart that I just made that number up!

Now, let’s say you can’t find that study per se, well you have at least 10 other studies looking at using testosterones as CONTRACEPTIVES at 250mg/week or less. If you can’t find those studies you are dumb!

Anyhow, let’s just compare for scientific exploration that your body produces 7-9mg of test a day. Hmmm, wonder what 4 times that amount would do to you as you don’t obviously need it.

(200mg/7days is 28.57 mg/day)

And I’m sure you all have a totally scientific explanation as to how the HPT couldn’t possibly ‘see’ or be saturated by 4 times the normal endogenous testosterone levels, right?

Anarchy in the USA!

]]> Steroid Talk animal https://www.steroidslive.com/forums/steroid-talk/to-taper-or-not-to-taperhere-is-the-answer#post-1249 RE: To Taper or Not to Taper…Here is the Answer!!! https://www.steroidslive.com/forums/steroid-talk/to-taper-or-not-to-taperhere-is-the-answer#post-1248 Mon, 17 Sep 2018 10:55:58 +0000 my .02….I taper dbol, abombs and all test. I will never buy into the fact that it only takes 200mg of test to shut your test production down. I think that 200mg will hinder your own levels and allow your body to secrete less of it’s own, but shut it down??? never. How did anyone ever derive that number. Everyone produces diff. amounts of test and everyone has a diff. cut-off point before “the alarm is sounded”. This is why I taper test. I personally have found that my body kicks in on it’s own faster if I taper than just quit. I’ve tried both and noticed the reactions of my body on both. I think whoever wrote that article is taking and extremely biased stance on what his/her body does with tapering vs. flatlining. Now, on all other as’s…I always increase my doses straight up….usually by 50mgs every 3-4 weeks and finish wherever I may.

trey

]]> Steroid Talk buffdiggity https://www.steroidslive.com/forums/steroid-talk/to-taper-or-not-to-taperhere-is-the-answer#post-1248 RE: To Taper or Not to Taper…Here is the Answer!!! https://www.steroidslive.com/forums/steroid-talk/to-taper-or-not-to-taperhere-is-the-answer#post-1247 Mon, 17 Sep 2018 10:19:37 +0000 In it’s scheme in all this as blocking it or not really seems to make no difference at all.

Now, if you were going to taper you should taper on test! Testosterones stimulate the nerves and the HPT. Synthetics like deca actually suppress nerve growth and this can be found on medline.

]]> Steroid Talk animal https://www.steroidslive.com/forums/steroid-talk/to-taper-or-not-to-taperhere-is-the-answer#post-1247 RE: To Taper or Not to Taper…Here is the Answer!!! https://www.steroidslive.com/forums/steroid-talk/to-taper-or-not-to-taperhere-is-the-answer#post-1246 Mon, 17 Sep 2018 08:17:09 +0000 Like thick said everyone is different…..I did 1gram of test and 600mg/wk of deca for 6 months and just got off cold turkey. I didnt lose anything. the only side was deppresion which I countered with zoloft. The cortisone rebound didnt effect me at all……………

]]> Steroid Talk CYPHON https://www.steroidslive.com/forums/steroid-talk/to-taper-or-not-to-taperhere-is-the-answer#post-1246 RE: To Taper or Not to Taper…Here is the Answer!!! https://www.steroidslive.com/forums/steroid-talk/to-taper-or-not-to-taperhere-is-the-answer#post-1245 Mon, 17 Sep 2018 07:18:32 +0000 Sorry if this seems like a stupid question, but assuming that above “x” amount of test (400 mg according to some sources, but I won’t go there) the HPTA is altered, then tapering above this amount may well be a waste of time from a receptor and HPTA standpoint.

Everyone seems to steer clear of the Cortisol issue. What I am trying to understand is, that if cortisol levels rise in relational porportion to testosterone levels, then wouldn’t tapering down, (up wouldn’t matter) bring cortisol levels closer to a manageable level (ie with Cytadren) instead of stopping cold turkey and flooding your system with unbound cortisol. It is my understanding that it is cortisol that creates direct muscle loss not imbalance in the HPTA.

Thoughts?

]]> Steroid Talk kovutmai https://www.steroidslive.com/forums/steroid-talk/to-taper-or-not-to-taperhere-is-the-answer#post-1245 RE: To Taper or Not to Taper…Here is the Answer!!! https://www.steroidslive.com/forums/steroid-talk/to-taper-or-not-to-taperhere-is-the-answer#post-1244 Mon, 17 Sep 2018 06:40:11 +0000 This will indeed stir up some controversey, but that is good, shows everyone is thinking and is concerned.

I myself have always tapered on high androgenic drugs. To me and it is my own opinion that it is safer and has kept me in this game for along while. I just don’t like to have my system crash.

We must understand that everyone is different and reactions can also be different. If one felt safer to taper than he should taper off. If one was to get good results with no adverse effects on flatlining then he should do it.

Now on anabolic drugs like deca, eq, and primobolan, etc., Yes, flatlining is ideal due to the low androgenic properties and to me is safe to keep at a constant dosage thru out the cycle.

So everyone, it really comes down to yourself and what you feel safe with. Take what you want and leave the rest, but please no flaming as everyone is intitled to his own opinion.

]]> Steroid Talk Thick1 https://www.steroidslive.com/forums/steroid-talk/to-taper-or-not-to-taperhere-is-the-answer#post-1244 RE: To Taper or Not to Taper…Here is the Answer!!! https://www.steroidslive.com/forums/steroid-talk/to-taper-or-not-to-taperhere-is-the-answer#post-1243 Mon, 17 Sep 2018 05:54:27 +0000 I flatline as well.

]]> Steroid Talk Blackjack https://www.steroidslive.com/forums/steroid-talk/to-taper-or-not-to-taperhere-is-the-answer#post-1243 RE: To Taper or Not to Taper…Here is the Answer!!! https://www.steroidslive.com/forums/steroid-talk/to-taper-or-not-to-taperhere-is-the-answer#post-1242 Mon, 17 Sep 2018 04:53:43 +0000 Well, I never taper. the end……lol. animal?

]]> Steroid Talk CYPHON https://www.steroidslive.com/forums/steroid-talk/to-taper-or-not-to-taperhere-is-the-answer#post-1242 RE: To Taper or Not to Taper…Here is the Answer!!! https://www.steroidslive.com/forums/steroid-talk/to-taper-or-not-to-taperhere-is-the-answer#post-1241 Mon, 17 Sep 2018 03:52:52 +0000 Any and all AS will saturate your HPT!

HPT is responsible for stimulating LH and FSH production to get your nuts back online.

NO DRUG AT ALL CAN CLEAR THE HPT! All HCG, CLOMID, and/or nolvadex can do is MIMIC or stimulate LH production. Now, the concommittant raise in natural test will again sATURATE YOUR HPT so you are back to start with HPT taking 4weeks to 6mos to recover depending on AS used with the synthetics like deca being much worse.

Anastrozole, however may have some unique properties which aren’t explored by research and using something like aldactone which is an anti-androgen with anastrozole may clear the HPT, but nobody has tested that as of yet.

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